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Life of Brian; A Lesson In Standards: QAF Recap 507 06-26-05

by StickyKeys


My best “on location” friends Juanita and Jerrod were in town and I made them sit and watch with me, so this recap will be formatted a little differently than usual.

Talk about a crazy night to go with a crazy episode.

Melanie (seemingly trying to save face?) says, “It’s not just [Torontosburgh]. Yesterday afternoon Family America (sigh), the conservative based citizen’s action group, announced that they’d collected enough signatures to have proposition 14 placed on the ballot in an upcoming statewide election If passed the controversial measure could dissolve a broad range of contracts between same-sex couples.” Deb goes off and Michael tells her to calm down. Melanie continues reading and we learn that, “Opponents say proposition 14 is one of the most homophobic pieces of legislation in our country’s history. It would effectively negate powers of attorney, wills, leases, child custody arrangements, joint bank accounts, and health insurance granted by companies that recognize domestic partnerships.” Michael looks horrified now, “Holy shit, that is everything!” Deb gives him the eyebrow and says, “Did I hear someone say don’t overreact?” Shut up Deb! I’ve about had it with her this season.

“That’s what some other people said once,” Mel says in response to overreacting, “next thing you know they were being shipped off to camps.” Right. First of all, Shut Up scene. Second of all, I don’t understand this legislation. Is it just for homosexuals? How would that not fall under the hate crimes category? Like, last time this happened people did end up in camps, but because of that there was more legislation so it would never happen again. I was also informed by snacktastic (love that name!) on Moldy’s boards that Pittsburgh even has hate-crime laws that protect transsexuals, so why is QAF trying to present them as this haven for homo-haters? Thirdly, I’m Christian and yes, I know that our beliefs are in direct conflict with this show, but please rest assure that we are not all bat crap crazy! For every “Christian” that would vote for some mess like this, there is a newly opened up spot in hell. I just don’t understand this push to make the life of a homosexual so hard. I mean if these “Christians” believe that homosexuals are going to hell, then isn’t that BAD ENOUGH?!? Why must we compound the offense and make their lives hell? That’s just ridiculous to me, because seriously, they know that they’re gay and they’re either going to be gay, or they’re not. Nothing you do is going to change that. So you can tell them they can’t have legal unions and you can take away their insurance, and break their joint bank accounts (which seriously, WTF?), but they will still be gay. It’s not like they’re going to say, “Well dang Jimmy, I did want to sleep with you, but we wouldn’t be able to get a lease arrangement anywhere!” Whatever stupid legislation. Whatever show.

And those are just my thoughts if it relates only to gay people. Please don’t let me find out that this is supposed to apply to everyone and will just hit gays the hardest.




[User Picture]From: forever_frozen
2005-07-03 07:00 pm (UTC)
Thirdly, I’m Christian and yes, I know that our beliefs are in direct conflict with this show, but please rest assure that we are not all bat crap crazy!

I don't really see how QAF conflicts with Christian beliefs. The Bible verses that appear to reference sex between men (Lev 18:23 and others) are open to interpretation. Biblical scholars generally agree that the verses were directed towards male prostitution in the temple and other pagan rituals that involved sodomy, and that they had more to do with discouraging paganism than discouraging homosexuality.

Also, there are numerous verses in the Old Testament that warn against eating shellfish, wearing blended fabrics, planting multiple crops in one field, working on sabbath days, and touching a menstruating woman, as all are considered "abominations" often punishable by death. So I don't see how watching QAF is in any more conflict with Christianity than leaving the house while on your period or going to a seafood buffet.
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[User Picture]From: stickykeys633
2005-07-03 08:08 pm (UTC)
Old Testament was invalidated after Jesus died on the cross (ripping of the curtain in Twain. Jesus main commandment of "Love everyone as I loved you" reigns supreme. Homosexuality is one thing that remains in a constant negative light throughout the NT.

Now I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, and I'm not trying to start anything. I love hearing all sides and getting new things to think about it.

But in the most general sense, Christianity and Homosexuality conflict. And I hate that more than anything in this world.

I'm still researching and trying to prove it wrong!
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[User Picture]From: forever_frozen
2005-07-03 09:13 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of the OT being invalidated post-crucifixion (This might be because I was raised in a different denomination of Christianity than the one to which you belong, I'm not sure.) Certainly it becomes outdated because it was written in preparation for the coming of the Messiah, but Christians still follow OT teachings such as the Ten Commandments, and Leviticus is still cited as the main verse that backs up Christianity's condemnation of homosexuality.

I know that verses such as Romans 1:26 are considered to be NT criticism of homosexuality, but again, Biblical scholars and theologians have begun to acknowledge that such writings were meant to reprimand pagan ritual, not homosexuality itself. I suppose it depends on whether or not one interprets the Bible literally.

I hope I'm not coming off as abrasive; just here for friendly debate!

This is a good site for Bible passages related to homosexuality.
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[User Picture]From: stickykeys633
2005-07-03 09:37 pm (UTC)
Yes, I've actually visited that site, and thanks for putting up the link.

I am of the sect that teaches the Bible to be a literal interpretation. That's what kills me is because if you believe it, you have to believe all of it.

I have become well versed in apologetics trying to find one contradiction that is not proven valid, but everyone has a different interpretation of what the Bible says.

I want to expound more, but my nieces and nephews are pulling at me!

I'll be back later!
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