Roxie, you are fabulous, because you're completely right. In almost every other fandom, the pairing will never get together in canon. In QAF, almost every pairing you could think of has been either depicted or alluded to on the show. And not just the big three (Brian/Michael, Brian/Justin, Michael/Ben). You can argue for Brian/Emmett on the same wavelength that someone else could argue Michael/Justin. It may never happen, but the evidence is there.
And on that note, I'll see your "B/M Forever" and raise you a "Viva la B/M!"
I'm fabulous? *blushes* Thanks you!!
And I agree with the points you made! QAF teases us with all sorts of pairings. While I may never want to think about Brian/Ted or Michael/Justin, the possibility is always there. ;)
"Viva la B/M! Ahora y siempre!" *g*
Yes! I never thought about that. & I often wondered why we were so much more hostile (which I know I personally am so I'm not trying to just blame others) than other fandoms. But you are soooo right.
And you're especially right because Brian and Michael are meant to be together and anyone who doesn't think that can SUCK MY COCK.
(Haha, tooootally kidding.)
Brian and Michael are meant to be together and anyone who doesn't think that can SUCK MY COCK.
HAHAHA!!!! Right on! :D
Thanks for commenting! I'm glad you liked the essay and that you found it true! *G*
Random comment... GOD I LOVE THAT ICON!!!! I have that one too! Seriously, is there nothing better than that scene?!?!?!!?
*contineues to stare at your icon*
I was partying in Toronto when the wank you linked broke out. hmmm. Don't forget the big wank a few months ago...
Interesting essay. I agree with most of your points. So should we blame Cowlip? =P
You should post this on michaelandbrian
2005-04-12 11:30 pm (UTC)
I have to say I really enjoyed reading this essay. And I agree with many of the points that you’ve made.
But I’d also like to add that it’s not just our love for these characters or the pairing we wish to see end up happily ever after. It’s also a sense of entitlement that leads to an arrogance that also propels these shipper wars and wankfests.
It the sense that CL owe us something for all the time and energy we’ve invested in these parings. The emotional rollercoaster that we’ve been on with them for the past four years. And the feeling that we should in the end get some sort of satisfaction for having loyally put up with it all.
It’s the sense that we’re owed a happy ending. That B/J should be together because they’ve suffered through so much together. From the bashing, to Justin’s being a vigilante to Brian’s cancer scare.
Or that B/M should be together because of the storied history they have together. From the years spent being there for each other when on one else was to Michael being the only person Brian allows himself to become emotionally vulnerable around.
It’s the sense that CL have strung us along for years now and now we want/are entitled to satisfaction. And to prove out point we offer proof to support our vision of what satisfaction should look like in the end.
But I’d also like to add that it’s not just our love for these characters
Thanks for commenting! I really liked the points you brought up. And don't worry - I haven't forgotten about the fans' sense of entitlement leading to wank. This essay was only Part 1. Parts 2 and 3 are still in the works. *g*
I'm glad you enjoyed the essay! :D
The big wank a few months ago? Oh! The fishbutt
one? I wonder if I have the link for that somewhere... hmm...
Thanks for commenting! And yes, we should always blame CowLip. Because all that's wrong with the world I'm sure is somehow due to their deviousness. :P
Thank you muchly! :D
I have edited the essay to add the link. *g*
you rock Roxie :)
There does seem to be an inordinantly large amount of passionate opinion in this fandom and the cannon possibilities certainly feed into that a lot.
lol I couldn't help but laugh at your parting words but of course I agree. But I also can see where things escalate quickly.
Thank you!!! *g*
And I'm glad you got a laugh out of it. :D
"There's not going to be any butt sex in Orange County, the island or at Hogwarts. Sorry, sad to say it, but it's not happening"
Oh hon. That was fan-fucking-tastic!!! Now while I like my little "can't we just get along" speech, I totally agree with everything you had to say. You're right. The number one reason that we (QaF fans in general) get so emotional over our ship of preference is because there is potential for it to happen!!! SO well written!! While I generally try never to get involved in a shipper war, I have been a victim of a few vicious attacks and do you know what I have to say to them? B/M FOREVER lol. *sticks tongue out* -- ok, just kidding.
Seriously though, this was very well thought out and well written!!!
So you liked my butt sex comment? *G*
Thanks for enjoying the essay and for all the great compliments!!! You make my day. ;)
*hugs and <3s to Angie*
Oh yeah. I LOVED it!!!!!!!!!!!!
You always make MY day!! :D
*hugs & more <3 to Roxie*
Fantastic essay. :) Mind if I friend you? I'm in dire need of fellow B/M fans!
Thanks for commenting!
And sure, friend away! My f-list could always use more B/M fans. :D
"I'm in dire need of fellow B/M fans"
LOL! That's usually MY pick-up line ;)
Do you need any more because, Hello!!! B/M-er! Over here! :D
*points to self*
My f-list is actually growing but as I always say, one can NEVER have too many friends. Especially B/M-ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ps, I worship your icon!!!! *G*
Haha hey! You're right, you can never have enough B/M fans! :P
Thanks- I didn't make it, _mixed_media_
did, but it's damn pretty. :D I'm loving your icon- <33 that episode!
Im going to friend you, if that's ok :D
*hugs new B/M-er*
Right on. I've always lived on subtext in HP and SG. I walked into those ships knowing I'd have to be content with fanfic and fanart.
With Qaf, as you said, there's real evidence. So for every piece of B/M that I get, the more I want and hope to see. Then the part of me thinking isn't it obvious that B/M is the ultimate ship?! gets dissapointed when another episode, another opporunity for such a moment, passes by.
Eee, back to you now! :p Wonderful essay as usual! <3
So for every piece of B/M that I get, the more I want and hope to see
So true! It's such a tease when we get those little moments! And it's such a let down when we don't get the moments that we want. *glares at double edged sword*
Thanks for commenting!! *g* I'm glad you liked the essay! :D
This is a wonderful essay. Your writing style is very personal and I can tell you've really put thought and effort into this piece. You incorporate opinions, facts, and humor (I loved the "There's not going to be any butt sex in Orange County, the island or at Hogwarts." It made me laugh out loud.) I always appreciate a well written essay
That being said...thank you. I have only been a part of the QAF fandom for little under 5 months now and the wankiness of this fandom has always been puzzling for me. I have belonged to other fandoms throughout my years and never have I ever seen such fighting. And I have more than once been a "non-canon" shipper (Farscape I was totally a John/Chiana shipper at heart! I still hold a tiny flag for them. Anyhoo...that out of my system) I never saw any animosity towards me or anyone else for the way that they shipped. Even just browsing around communities and the like, I've always seen more of a discussion. Never have I seen users verbally attack other users or actors for that matter.
So thank you for giving me your perspective on what makes this fandom so...disgruntled. It's nice to see someone tackling this topic. I look forward to more parts? (I believe I saw a "part 1" but no other parts...) So if more is coming I'll be sure to read them.
Oh...and um...I'll just...wave my..."B/M FOREVER!" flag now.
Yeah. That felt nice. I'll just keep waving my flag!
Thank you! This is a great comment, I really appreciate it. *g* I'm glad you liked the essay/my writing style/my sad attempts at humor. *lol*
And since I have been thinking about this essay for awhile now, I'm glad that came across. I've been in this fandom for almost 2 years... wow, it's been longer than I thought. Anyways, for all this time it's bothered me that this fandom is so hostile. So I just wanted to explore some kind of explanation for it.
And yes, this was only Part 1 and so far there are no other parts. I'm still thinking about them. Because I'm in the middle of a bad period at school so my meta muse is on the fritz. Hopefully soon, I'll be able to get Parts 2 and 3 up. *g*
So keep waving your B/M flag! I know I am. ;)